So after fermenting, we moved it into a carboy, and placed it in a dark room and forgot about it. We kegged and carbed her up a couple weeks back, and while it has a nice malt and hop base, there was this other flavor in there I had a hard time putting my finger on. After bringing it to one of my homebrewer gatherings, some buddies helped me identify it as "metallic" - after finally having the word I needed, I totally agreed.
It's not terrible, still a decent beer. But the question remains - what happened to cause this????
After asking fellow homebrewers in the area, and posting to the Chicago Beer Society list and AHA's Tech Talk, I got very little response - what I did get was people asking me to keep them posted if I found the answer! Generally it seems like a flavor that mysteriously appears from time to time. Anyways, here are some of the answers I collected:
- It's something that happens with the yeast, particularly English Ale strains. (I used Wyeast 1968 for this, it was a second batch for the yeast, originally having used it for a stout that turned out fine.)
- It's the water, and/or how the water reacts to certain dark malts.
- If you've had any new pipes or plumbing installed, or if the city has installed any new piping in your area.
- If you scrub your brewpot with a metal scouring pad or other abrasive-type scrub pad.
- One guy said, "The only time I used Phoenix hops I had a metallic taste in an ESB that some judges picked up on in a competition."
- Getting a new keg, and not cleaning it prior to use.
So anyways, what I've taken to doing is wiping down the brewpot with a clean, wet towel before adding anything to it on brew day. We've brewed several batches since this porter with no metallic issues. In my research I've even read that great homebrewers like Jamil Z. have had this flavor pop-up with no explanation.
So don't know if this helped anyone or not - if you have any further insights, please post a comment! Cheers.
Update July 21, 2010: After a day brewing at Goose Island, I saw they use steel scrubbies. So the problem may not have been with the scrubbie, but the chemical in the S.O.S pad (?).
Interesting. I recently brewed a porter that, while I think it turned out wonderful overall, seems to have a slight metallic note to it. The thing is, after repeated samplings, I can't figure out if it is indeed a metallic taste, or if there is just something particular about the way the hop bitterness and the bitterness of the roasted malts overlap. Mine is a lot younger than yours though---brewed the first week of January. Perhaps some aging will mellow that out some.
ReplyDeleteHey Chris, it is a tricky flavor to pin down - if there are any other homebrewers or breweries in your area, I'd bring them some. I would've never figured it out wo/ some group knowledge. I think I'm going to brew this one again, but with different hops and see what happens. Cheers!
ReplyDeleteDo you treat your water at all? I had similar problems from time to time when I first started brewing. Then I built a charcoal filter for my brewing water and haven't noticed it since.
ReplyDeleteWhat we usually do is just let the water sit out overnight, so any chlorine evaporates out. But I've been thinking about a dedicated brew-water filter...
ReplyDeleteIf you find a good deal on a water filter, let me know. For my last brew, an American pale ale, I Brita filtered the water. Six gallons from a 2 quart filter pitcher was time consuming an awkward. But I'm anxious to get it bottled and carbonated so I can taste if it has made any difference.
ReplyDeleteChris, check this out: http://tinyurl.com/create.php You can use aquarium charcoal instead of the shower filter (which is hard to track down) and it's super cheap.
ReplyDeleteD'oh... That link didn't work. Try this.
ReplyDeleteVery nice. Thanks for the link!
ReplyDeleteI've found that a lot of european lagers have that metallic taste. even trumer pils, which is brewed in the us as well as salzburg, has a slight metallic flavor. in the trumer tho, i might be tasting a lemon flavor from the saaz hops. peroni was the worse. wow what an awful beer!
ReplyDeleteUpdate: we've since started using a filter instead of letting the water sit overnight - no metallic tastes since (but then again, we haven't brewed another porter yet...).
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